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My wife has a sibilant voice that I would like to tame with the TLM 193 but I also like the TLM 103 for myself… ggrrrrr…. The TLM 193 is currently available – from online retailers – for between £1,000 and £1,150, so we’re not talking pin money here. My first microphone – the Audio Technica AT 4040 – cost £200 when I bought it two summers ago, and is now on sale from the same retailer at a breathtaking £363, which means that I’m now in the position to be able to sell mine for more than I paid for it. ( Log Out / Went and pulled these out from under a chicken. If the “thing” has a “Buy It Now” price, and if you’re quick, then you can bag it before anyone else gets in on the bidding, and this is exactly what happened to me the other night when I checked my email on the train home. Well, it’s because of a couple of things. If you listen to the tracks one after the other on a reasonable system you’ll spot the difference, I’m sure. As you know, the TLM103 has a high shelf starting @ 5kHz boosted by 4db. Watch this space! One point here is that there certainly is more noise from the 193, and the 103 is indeed clearer, as advertised. The 193 is definitely more “reigned-in” at the top end than the 103, which I’d expected by looking at the frequency response graphs on the Neumann website. The 193 has a “fuller” sound and handles the mid-range especially well, lending a presence to my recordings which I rather like (most of the human voice is in this range, after all). The 193 needs a fair bit more gain to get the same level out of it. With this in mind I constructed an objective test, and read a few short script excerpts on each mic in turn, without making any other changes to my setup, which is a Focusrite Voicemaster Pro with digital ADC, feeding directly into an M-Audio Delta 66 soundcard on my PC. The bottom end on the TLM 103 appears to roll off at a slightly higher frequency than the 193, and perhaps this was why I found myself stopping recording yesterday in my basement studio when some arsehole pulled up in the street outside with one of those bass rigs that – literally – shakes the foundations of my house. I was interested to notice straight away that this element was gone. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Hello all. The TLM 103 has famously low self noise (that’s the amount of noise the microphone generates from its own electronics) and the 193’s is, on paper, several dBs higher, but would I be able to hear that? I’ve been using the 193 as my main microphone for over a week now, and I have to say it’s grown on me. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. But of course, we can’t trust everything we hear in our headphones now, can we? Firstly, if you’re monitoring yourself reading live then what you’re hearing is a combination of what’s coming through your cans plus the sound that’s being transmitted to your ears through your own body. Early October update | Mike Cooper - Voiceover Artist, Decided I wanted poached eggs for my late lunch. choices, choices. TLM-103 vs. TLM193. http://www.digitalprosound.com/Htm/R...ug/Gefell.htm. I wanted a Neumann of some description, but was having trouble making up my mind which one. Thanks all. The TLM 103 I bought cost me £700 in a bundle with the EA-1. Do you have a TLM103? Steve gave a very nice comparison/analysis. In my experience, it’s quite possible to EQ out the brightness of TLM103 to suit long reads. But part of me has been curious this year as to what the similarly-priced TLM 193 might have brought to the table, so I’ve had a “saved search” running on eBay for a few months – just in case one came up at a price that was too good to miss. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. Yeah, I figured that the extra money on the Nuemann wouldn't be as noticable, but i do want that Neumann "wow" to help with the business side of things. I know there are a lot of 4033 fans out there, and it's by no means awful, but I prefer the TLM103 about 95% of the time (assuming those are the only two choices). If I understand what you mean by "spitty," its something i have and want to get rid of. Neumann TLM 103's are everywhere & they sound very good. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Posted by MikeCooper on September 19, 2009. But I’m not done yet, I don’t think, and I may play around some more. Best Regards! I’m left in a quandary: the truth is I like them both. But extended listening began to endear the mic to me. The 103 is somehow both sweet and sharp at the same time on my “ess” sounds. Change ). My initial thought was that it sounded “splashy” where the 103 was clean and shiny, and that there was less “punch” at the low end. I wanted a Neumann of some description, but was having trouble making up my mind which one. In short, it’s been an expensive lesson in why sound engineers keep cupboards full of mics for different applications, and I now have to caution myself against “trying out” any more, just in case this turns into an expensive hobby. “I am Spartacus!” (or what happens when everyone talks at once…), Christmas is coming… 10 Things all VO’s Should Do in December, Friday Fun – Andy Marriott and the Central tea tray…, Friday Fun – Orson Welles and the frozen peas. eBay did me proud again this week and offered up an Avalon VT-737SP. If I’d wanted to pick up a 193 in December 2008, I could have done so for about £800. I now have an Avalon 737 in my rig, which does indeed give me the opportunity to add a touch of EQ. In software I’ve found it quite hard to make the 193 sound like the 103. Have a listen before you read on. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Thanks all for the help. This blog’s “resting” at the moment, but not forgotten. Find out more about me on my main website (there's a link further down this column), or if you'd like to hear some of my work, check out the files below. In the coming weeks I hope to move it to my own web hosting and do some more interesting stuff with it. The lows may not go quite so low, but there’s a touch more warmth and presence to the recordings, whereas the 103 has a touch more punch and brightness. But is the difference enough for you to pick a favourite if you heard it solo? Even at the time it was a bargain, but now the 103 is retailing for upwards of £730 on its own. Acoostic Zoo Recording Studio. 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